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A Poll About Signs Of Rallies Past

September 11, 2023 By Mike Daily 2 Comments

If you were among the teams that entered the September NWRC Friday Nighter (9/8/23), I’d like to collect some information from you. If you are viewing the desktop version of this site, there is a LEAVE A COMMENT button at top right. If you are viewing on a mobile device, you may need to click on the title (A Poll About…) and then scroll to the down to find LEAVE A REPLY.

Your feedback is critical. We began using the Richta GPS Checkpoints system this season and everyone is still learning.

1. Do you know what a Broadcast Message is, in the context of a rally using Richta apps?

2. How was your device (phone/tablet running the Competitor app) mounted: Windshield mount? Sitting on dash pad? Hand held? On clipboard? Something else?

3. Android or iOS device?

4. Did you receive any Broadcast Message(s) during or after the rally?

If you did get one or more messages:

5. When did you receive message that adjusted NRIs to get around road closure?

6. When did you receive message amended to warn about elk?

7. When did you receive message to fix NRI 77 (adding MBCU)?

Signs Of Rallies Past – Results and Recap

September 10, 2023 By Mike Daily 1 Comment

Scores for 9/8/23 Signs Of Rallies Past NWRC Friday Nighter

(pictures courtesy of N. Hightower)

Rallymaster (and NWRC President) John Humphrey writes:

First, I would like to thank Mike Daily, our NWRC Vice President for all his help in measuring, pace assistance, scoring, and trophy making.  Secondly, the world is an imperfect place, which brings us to rally night.  I had a premonition the night before that there would be a ‘road closed’ on the rally.  I attribute this to my Native American ancestry.  I was so taken by this thought that I wanted to drive the course on Friday before the event but didn’t have the time due to other priorities.  And, finding an impaled dead bat (most likely collected during our rally checkout) in the grille of my X3 at rally registration was confirmation of an imperfect night ahead.

My premonition was right as there was an emergency road closure for a bridge repair on SE 156th ST which was announced late Thursday 9/7 and effective Friday 8AM 9/8!!  The Leg 1 Checkpoint was on that road.  This forced us to throw Leg 1.  Mike, on the fly, figured out how we could potentially save Leg 2, but several cars were already beyond the selected restart point.  Hence, Leg 2 was thrown also!!

We did send out Broadcast Messages however at the end found out, that due to the differences in Android/iPhone functionality/behavior and the issue of gaps in cellular coverage for the variety of open vs. wooded vs. commercial areas we drove through, not everyone received the messages in a timely manner or at all.

I hope you were able to view all the wildlife that SE King County has to offer – a small posse of Elk (12?) between NRI 35 and 36 (258 AVE SE); a jogging coyote after NRI 56; and ‘observing raccoons’ watching us near NRI 69 and NRI 72!!  Fortunately, the suicidal deer encountered on checkout just after NRI 56 were no shows!!

Anyway, despite the turn of bad luck for Legs 1 and 2, I hope you enjoyed the balance of the rally.

Greg Hightower is the Rally Master for October and I know he will have an entertaining rally for all of us!!

Again, thank you all for attending and understanding that life happens.


JRH III

The Ghost of Rallies Future

August 20, 2023 By Mike Daily Leave a Comment

Got a glimpse of next month’s Friday Nighter yesterday. The future is bright. NWRC President John Humphrey is your rallymaster for September and has put together nice roads and route instructions to keep both the drivers and navigators entertained.

Once again, we’ll be using the Richta GPS Checkpoints system, and Supplemental General Instructions. Scroll down a few posts to August 11th for links to the Supps and Richta Quick Guide. They are also available in the Documents section.

9/8 is less than 3 weeks away. See you soon!

Ignoring The Signs

August 12, 2023 By Mike Daily Leave a Comment

Car 9 here. We encountered some curious GPS trouble at the July Friday Nighter.

First, this is not a general problem with the Richta GPS Checkpoints system. It was a combination of a conflict with another app and maybe (IMO) some limitations of any Android device.

Second, there were clues that there could be trouble brewing. No big red flags, but some indications. When you open the Competitor app into an event, the GPS coordinates begin refreshing and should do so very often. I noticed they didn’t seem to be changing quickly or steadily. Wish I had given that more thought. I dismissed my concern because I’ve mostly been staring at the Rallymaster app this year.

Third, I have an app called MileIQ installed on my phone. It is an automated mileage logger for keeping track of reimbursable business travel. This app updated earlier that day. Five days later, I discovered it had no data captured for those five days. I’ve had small problems with MileIQ reliability, but never found it to interfere with Richta. Restarting the phone made no difference. I ended up having to uninstall and reinstall MileIQ to get it working again.

Next clue was found about two miles down the road. At the Drivers Meeting, they announced the crew working the OUTCONE would be checking each car had gotten their Out Time in the app. The crew did not do this. Knowing our intended Out Time was 1930 + 9, I had already entered that into the rally computer and didn’t notice Competitor hadn’t detected the Restart location (CP1).

The final clue was the laggy checkpoint detection. Yes, there is a slight delay between passing the checkpoint coordinates and Competitor announcing it. As we arrived at one checkpoint (location unknown) we could see a line of cars idling. There were two posts between us and the stopped cars. 2nd post was pretty close to the cars, so seemed likely that the checkpoint would be at the 1st post. We were one or two seconds beyond the 1st post but not yet to the 2nd post when the app sounded. If the GPS data stream reaching the app was refreshing slowly or erratically, I would expect exactly this result.

We made no off-course excursions and arrived at the finish location having detected only CP2, CP3, and CP4. Somewhere along the way we passed the CP5 location without detecting it.

The event critique distributed at the finish described a leg 6 but there is no CP6 in the results. We didn’t hear anything about it being dropped or explaining the mismatch.

There were three other cars that did not detect CP5. A rally official was monitoring the map view of the course in the Rallymaster app and says those cars were off-course missing the checkpoint location entirely. It makes sense these three didn’t detect CP5. What doesn’t make sense is 30% of the SOP and NOV cars missing a checkpoint. When that many cars are getting lost at the same place there is a problem, and the leg probably should have been tossed. It’s not the competitors’ fault that the route or instructions were difficult to follow without local knowledge or more experience.

After the remove/install cycle with MileIQ, I’ve had no further issues with any GPS app. I’ll be making a few verification tests with Competitor and see if things are working smoothly again with it. Just looking at the GPS data refresh, it seems to be fine now.

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